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Danny Diamonds
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:01:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Barbara Nichole wrote:Are you claiming that somehow barges did not need the attention?.. or are you just whining as always? generally ships need attention when they are underused that's one reason anyway.... ships either need attention when they're so worthless that they're underused, or terribly overpowered and overused nobody was flying mining barges or exhumers, especially not hulks
If there were only 5 combat ships to choose from, I bet we would see a lot of use in one ship there as well. Miners do not have the options available to them that PVE/PVP pilots do. To somehow claim that Hulks are broke because they are used by many miners is terribly short-sighted. |
Danny Diamonds
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:09:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Danny Diamonds wrote:To somehow claim that Hulks are broke because they are used by many miners is terribly short-sighted. to claim that hulks need a boost in any sense in spite of the fact that they are so heavily used is terribly short-sighted
I never claimed that. Stop making **** up. |
Danny Diamonds
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:38:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:dexington wrote:The Procurer was just useless, do to the small difference in skill required to fly the Retriever, the same was true when you compare Covetor with Hulk. You used the retriever when training for hulk, and the covetor when it was not safe to use the hulk. The mack and Skiff has the specialized bonus for ice and mercoxit, which makes them usefull, but only if you decide to mine that kind of material.
Saying that because people used the ships everything was fine, is just wrong. The ships was not useless, you just did not have any choice in what you wanted to fly. Yeah tell me more about hisec miners mining mercoxit You have plenty of choices, it's just that you feel entitled to fly the highest yield ships at all times.
So you are saying everyone should fly sub-optimal ships for every task? I do seem to recall fleets of Rifters for new players, and not many sitting in Condors. Same is true for every tier of ship. There are those worth flying, those that are clearly in the top 3, and there are those not worth flying. What kind of logic says someone should fly sub-optimal? |
Danny Diamonds
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:45:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Danny Diamonds wrote:So you are saying everyone should fly sub-optimal ships for every task? I do seem to recall fleets of Rifters for new players, and not many sitting in Condors. Same is true for every tier of ship. There are those worth flying, those that are clearly in the top 3, and there are those not worth flying. What kind of logic says someone should fly sub-optimal? believe it or not there was once a time when battleship mining reigned
It is crap to have an industrialist have to train in battleship skills. That is like telling a fighting pilot he has to train an industrial ship (Like a Hulk) if he wants to tank a fleet battle or Incursion.
Makes zero sense. |
Danny Diamonds
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:55:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Danny Diamonds wrote:It is crap to have an industrialist have to train in battleship skills. That is like telling a fighting pilot he has to train an industrial ship (Like a Hulk) if he wants to tank a fleet battle or Incursion.
Makes zero sense. 'Battleship skills' is Caldari Battleship III seeing as you already had the shield, mining and fitting skills to tank your Hulk
Yes, and combat pilots can also train Exhumers III in order to better handle fleet battles in their Hulk since they already had their shield and gun skills. |
Danny Diamonds
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 19:20:00 -
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Why is there this notion that suicide ganking should be profitable at all?
Go fight something that can shoot back. |
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